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Collect HN: Aprils Fools
188 points by daleharvey 8 hours ago   134 comments top 80
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1 point by robin_reala 0 minutes ago 0 replies      
Search for Helvetica on Google: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=helvetica
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33 points by mbrubeck 7 hours ago 2 replies      
Opt out of April Fools Day with the "DNF" HTTP header:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/do-not-fool/

If you are planning an April Fools joke on your web site, I urge you to support this important new web standard. :)

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2 points by mrspeaker 28 minutes ago 0 replies      
Joe Armstrong and Robert Virding admit that Erlang VM was just a dodgy clone of the JVM (video)

http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/04/erlang-copied-jvm-and-scal...

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11 points by cowpewter 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Here at Grooveshark, we've harnessed the power of HTML5™ to provide you with a full 3D experience...

http://listen.grooveshark.com/

If you have a paid account, it won't change your theme automatically though. You should get a notification in the corner to turn it on.

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31 points by moeffju 6 hours ago 5 replies      
We're pretty B2B, so we just subtly rotate the whole page by -2.5 to +2.5 deg. https://www.toptranslation.com/

(Supports the DNF protocol, btw.)

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26 points by gcr 8 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm planning on installing a transparent proxy that rotates web pages 1-2 degrees with CSS3 transforms.

https://github.com/gcr/proxies/blob/master/rotating-proxy.js

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5 points by humbledrone 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I created a bash-like shell with C++ syntax. It saves a lot of typing, and it's only 412,011 lines of template-heavy code, so it's easy to extend:

http://blog.mezeske.com/?p=377

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14 points by th 4 hours ago 0 replies      
xkcd is 3D: http://xkcd.com/

Randall is accepting user-submitted 3D versions of each comic: http://xkcd.com/xk3d/

Unfortunately, it looks like there is no title text for 3D comics yet.

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14 points by GVRV 3 hours ago 0 replies      
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16 points by daleharvey 8 hours ago 0 replies      
and the first, spotify closes its EU service in order to launch in the US

http://eu.techcrunch.com/2011/04/01/spotify-announces-us-lau...

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21 points by daleharvey 8 hours ago 1 reply      
atlassian gets into mobile gaming

http://www.atlassian.com/en/angrynerds

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6 points by tkahn6 3 hours ago 1 reply      
Hulu 1995 throwback complete with <table> based layout.

http://www.hulu.com/index.htm

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22 points by joshu 6 hours ago 4 replies      
Is it just me or is none of this stuff any funny?
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10 points by yesbabyyes 8 hours ago 2 replies      
Adblock releases Adblock Freedom - augmented reality eyewear that detects and removes ads from the world in realtime. http://chromeadblock.com/freedom/
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2 points by fakelvis 35 minutes ago 0 replies      
http://pinboard.in is now a Yahoo! product.

Before I realised, the "from Yahoo!" image (top left) stopped me in my tracks.

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1 point by PStamatiou 19 minutes ago 0 replies      
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7 points by dwwoelfel 4 hours ago 0 replies      
If I wasn't so scared of being tarred and feathered by the anti-fools brigade, I'd submit this self-post for April Fools:

    DAE think Hacker News is turning into Reddit?

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18 points by imrehg 7 hours ago 0 replies      
The Canterbury Distribution: http://www.archlinux.org/ & http://www.debian.org/ & http://grml.org/ & Gentoo & openSUSE....

That's some team effort! Too bad it's a joke, I'd so get it right now...

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2 points by jeffbarr 1 hour ago 0 replies      
The AWS team has been working on the new Amazon $NAME product for over 10 months:

http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2011/04/announcing-aws-name.html

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11 points by lachyg 8 hours ago 0 replies      
I wonder how many cofounders will get fake YC interview acceptances from their partners =P
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1 point by jitendra_ 18 minutes ago 0 replies      
News about Pune's Tech Industry decline quotes Vivek Wadhwa:

http://punetech.com/punes-tech-industry-to-decline-40-by-202... .

Wadhwa on twitter confirms it is a prank: http://twitter.com/vwadhwa/status/53675195906531328

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1 point by paraschopra 51 minutes ago 0 replies      
Move beyond behavioral targeting: using mouse movements to read visitor's mind http://visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/split-testing-blog/behavio...
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2 points by adora 1 hour ago 0 replies      
LinkedIn's "People you may know" section is now filled with historical figures and fictional characters, all of which have pretty elaborate profiles.

http://awesomescreenshot.com/057alia5b

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6 points by Xuzz 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Cydia adds a dickbar to help users discover popular packages: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=14540
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1 point by sankara 32 minutes ago 0 replies      
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2 points by loganlinn 58 minutes ago 0 replies      
Narwhal in London according to Google Maps!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&...
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16 points by mhiceoin 8 hours ago 0 replies      
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2 points by bergie 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Apache gets paid 3.141592654 cents for each Google +1 click because of their "+1 patent"

http://grep.codeconsult.ch/2011/04/01/1-tm-a-rosy-financial-...

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1 point by agaton 24 minutes ago 0 replies      
Twingly and TV4+ Haunted House launches Blog Platform for Ghost Writers and Social Mediums

http://blog.twingly.com/2011/04/01/twingly-launches-blog-pla...

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2 points by Seth_Kriticos 1 hour ago 0 replies      
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ drops back to CLI today, it seems.
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6 points by gammarator 8 hours ago 2 replies      
(Internet Annoyance Day is even more annoying when it starts at UTC-12.)
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4 points by NZ_Matt 7 hours ago 2 replies      
Air New Zealand have introduced "pay what you weigh"

http://promos.airnz.co.nz/payweigh/

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1 point by forsaken 1 hour ago 0 replies      
http://urbanairship.com has turned into an 8-bit working game.
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1 point by herman 20 minutes ago 0 replies      
We're having some reverse packet switching issues on Snapfinch, seems to be causing images to display upside down: http://snapfinch.com
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2 points by btilly 3 hours ago 0 replies      
One of my favorite web comics got seized by the FBI: http://www.gpf-comics.com/

(I hope this one is a joke.)

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1 point by sfgfdhgfdshdhhd 34 minutes ago 0 replies      
IDG has a story about mozilla recalling firefox 4 because of serious bug. Every user should return their version using an online upload form or by sending a usb-stick by mail.

http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.377322/mozilla-aterkallar-firefox...

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3 points by rbxbx 7 hours ago 0 replies      
test-align: centaur; http://testaligncentaur.com/

not to be confused with

text-align: centaur; http://textaligncentaur.com/

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4 points by vyrotek 4 hours ago 1 reply      
Voting things up on http://www.StackOverflow.com seems to display colorful dancing unicorns now.
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1 point by plainOldText 33 minutes ago 0 replies      
omgubuntu has encountered an error or many :)
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk
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4 points by derrida 4 hours ago 1 reply      
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2 points by tokenadult 7 hours ago 2 replies      
For historical interest, an all-time classic from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/1/new...

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2 points by mncaudill 1 hour ago 0 replies      
At Flick(e)r, we finally fixed the misspelling of the company name.
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4 points by mef 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Ryanair introduces "child-free" flights (if only it were true) http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/child-free-flights-from-octob...
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6 points by neckbeard 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Cheezburger Network acquires Charlie Stross' blog:
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2011/04/administ...
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3 points by carnivore 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Any YouTube video, with _CAPTIONS_ on (The CC button), to add text to your 1911 video :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmV-NddtqRU

To find other videos with captions, append ",cc" to your search, like "cats, cc".

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4 points by turbodog 2 hours ago 0 replies      
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4 points by qwertymaniac 4 hours ago 0 replies      
GMail Motion - Use your body to control your inbox: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html
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3 points by MaysonL 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Dave Winer's putting up a paywall on Scripting News:
http://scripting.com/stories/2011/04/01/letter.html
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3 points by inerte 8 hours ago 0 replies      
We put this on our menu, under "Tasks": http://erkie.github.com/ with the text "destroy system"
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2 points by duck 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I turned Hacker Newsletter (http://www.hackernewsletter.com) upside down for the day and started offering a new faxed edition for a small fee.
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1 point by pitdesi 3 hours ago 0 replies      
http://FeeFighters.com raised $41 million, bought the rock band FooFighters, rebranded as http://FoeFighters.com, and is having a contest to see which Foe they should fight.

Please vote! it's good for humanity!

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3 points by Urgo 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Hey guys, My goal since 2004 has been to keep a list of all AFD jokes on the web in one place. Check it out if you like. Have 66 there so far this year :) Feel free to submit any ones from THIS year to the site as well.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2394571

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2 points by sahillavingia 7 hours ago 0 replies      
At Pinterest we turned stuff upside down: http://pinterest.com/
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1 point by rsoto 3 hours ago 0 replies      
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1 point by elliottcarlson 5 hours ago 0 replies      
http://notes.envato.com/news/the-future-of-envato-is-here%E2...

Envato unveils 3DOcean - The world's first stereoscopic anaglyph online marketplace.

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6 points by Mizza 7 hours ago 1 reply      
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3 points by hollywoodcole 7 hours ago 0 replies      
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1 point by wmobit 2 hours ago 0 replies      
Milkyway@Home on iPhone / iOS. The small tests that run on my desktop in about 10 seconds take 20 minutes on my iphone 3g, and drain the battery about 8%.

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=2303

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1 point by cnicolaou 1 hour ago 0 replies      
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1 point by rdtsc 7 hours ago 1 reply      
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5 points by mman 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Everyone stop ruining April fools by expecting it
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0 points by __david__ 4 hours ago 0 replies      
We switched the colors on the cards in our solitaire games (http://greenfelt.net/freecell). It's a subtle effect that just makes things look weird without you being able to identify what is wrong, at first.
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3 points by shareme 8 hours ago 1 reply      
Jason Calacanis sold Mahalo to MS Bing
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1 point by iki23 3 hours ago 0 replies      
@TPB wins auction for site eBay.com, merge is planned:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2395035
http://bit.ly/frcgu8
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3 points by selvan 5 hours ago 0 replies      
DST's Yuri Milner offers EVERY YCS11 applicant $250K.
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1 point by dreeves 5 hours ago 0 replies      
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2 points by mhiceoin 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Affiliate rebills funding an Affiliate hang out in the Maldives

http://www.mrgreen.am/general/the-reason-i-havent-been-blogg...

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2 points by piotrSikora 7 hours ago 0 replies      
YouTube's "year 1911" mode ;)
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1 point by balanon 4 hours ago 0 replies      
"My newborn isn't crying all night. April Fools. Yes she is. Joke's on you."

http://twitter.com/#!/balanon/status/53677841384091649

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1 point by shoma 3 hours ago 0 replies      
New RFC. Regional Broadcast Using an Atmospheric Link Layer
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6217
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1 point by njonsson 6 hours ago 0 replies      
“What's new in htty v1.3.4: Rails view emulation â€" PUT and DELETE are sent as POST requests with form data of ‘_method=put' or ‘_method=delete'.”

http://twitter.com/get_htty/status/53649180652093440

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3 points by stevenashley 7 hours ago 1 reply      
Duke Nukem Forever has been delayed until Mid 2012.
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2 points by csarva 6 hours ago 1 reply      
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2 points by wilhil 7 hours ago 0 replies      
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1 point by Z3UX 7 hours ago 1 reply      
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1 point by senectus 7 hours ago 0 replies      
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1 point by redbluething 6 hours ago 0 replies      
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1 point by zedrick 7 hours ago 0 replies      
One Kings Lane launches OKL Farms - The only breeders of the Mini Lap Elephant.

http://oklephant.com/

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Ask HN: Should we agree that this account will submit all Who is Hiring posts?
275 points by whoishiring 18 hours ago   41 comments top 19
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69 points by bigsassy 17 hours ago 2 replies      
I like this idea. It would also make it easier to see past who's hiring threads as well. Just go to:

http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=whoishiring

and look at the submissions. Beats crawling through results on searchyc.com.

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16 points by dstein 15 hours ago 1 reply      
Why do all jobs have to be posted at one time once a month? There is already a "JOBS" tab at the top of HN. Why not just let other companies post to that page. You can still emphasize YC companies, stick them at the top for 30 days, and then everybody else below it. For that matter if PG ever wants to monetize HN adding paid job ads might be the best/easiest way to do it.
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11 points by JoachimSchipper 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I completely agree, but you should fill out the account information - something like 'This is a bot to post the monthly "who's hiring" thread. If there are any issues, please contact <foo>@<bar>.' - that'd also let us know who's behind this account.
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7 points by SingAlong 17 hours ago 1 reply      
Love this idea. I vote for this. Or maybe if anyone can actually edit the HN source and make the app self-post when it is first of every month (IMO keeping it automated will be easier...)

bigsassy's point about searching is right. It surely makes it easier to browse these threads when you have a dedicated whoishiring user account.

Whoever is posting this, please mention the format of the job posts clearly on every thread (whatever format... this thread http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2057704 says location first. It's description is a good example).

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9 points by stefanobernardi 15 hours ago 1 reply      
You should also def include a Who's Hiring H1Bs as we saw in February if I remember correctly.
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7 points by mindcrime 14 hours ago 0 replies      
I'm fine with the idea, but I'd suggest also adding a

  Who is looking for a Co-founder (Month YYYY)?

to the list.

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4 points by ig1 10 hours ago 1 reply      
It should be posted mid-week. I run a developer job board, traffic on Monday/Friday/Weekends is much lower than mid-week.

For whatever reason developers look for new jobs primarily tuesday-thursday.

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3 points by pclark 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Is this really needed when you can simply use http://searchyc.com and find all the posts and even relevant job descriptions from previous posts?
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6 points by kls 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Probably should include one more, Whose hiring freelancers edition, that way we could get all the "I need someone to build X" wrapped up under one section.
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3 points by jkent 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Great idea, some questions...

Can we have a vote on this?

How will this be enforced?

What's PG's take on this?

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2 points by astrofinch 16 hours ago 1 reply      
First, I'm a little unfamiliar with this problem--why this bad:

"our peers competing to put forward Who Is Hiring threads by submitting them increasingly prematurely"

Maybe this suggests that >1 submission a month is better?

Finally, perhaps it'd be best to stagger the three post types throughout the month so they don't compete with each other for attention?

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3 points by metra 16 hours ago 1 reply      
I'm worried about the first of the month falling on a Friday such as tomorrow, April 1st. Will the weekend squash the popularity of a Friday 'Who's Hiring' thread?
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1 point by geuis 16 hours ago 1 reply      
I vote no. Its valuable to see the HN name of the people submitting open jobs. For the most part, people aren't only interested in a company name. They're also interested in the people they could end up working with. I want to see the submitter's voting and commenting history.
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1 point by bluishgreen 15 hours ago 1 reply      
I guess my recent post http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2391491 opening one more category is what prompted you to post this?
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1 point by adrianscott 10 hours ago 0 replies      
part good, part bad. there needs to be room for new kinds of categories...
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1 point by squirrel 15 hours ago 0 replies      
This would be super. I always want to post in these threads (because youDevise is always hiring great hackers) and have trouble finding them reliably. Thanks for suggesting this!
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1 point by camworld 15 hours ago 1 reply      
Centralizing it so it's under one person's control? That doesn't make much sense at all.
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1 point by LeadDreamer 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Simple, single point just works. Yes.
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1 point by shareme 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I vote yes
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Ask HN: What's the status of WebSockets?
4 points by peteforde 5 hours ago   2 comments top 2
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1 point by btmorex 1 hour ago 0 replies      
They're being fixed. It'll probably take a while. Best bet right now is to develop against http://socket.io/. I'm pretty sure that will be updated when a secure websockets protocol is implemented. Also, for now, you can use a fallback of flash sockets which in my testing perform nearly as well (all the other fallbacks perform pretty poorly if you care about latency at all)
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1 point by wmf 4 hours ago 0 replies      
After a protracted debate, the security issues were fixed and the new version is being implemented and tested now.

http://tools.ietf.org/wg/hybi/

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Ask HN: What's best way to show YC Your Idea Is Worth Funding?
5 points by citizenkeys 6 hours ago   4 comments top 2
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4 points by pg 5 hours ago 1 reply      
Explain how you know people want what you're building.
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3 points by helwr 4 hours ago 0 replies      
Find a customer that wants your product.

Even better - get them pay for it, scan the receipt and use it instead of the application video.

Even better - get enough receipts so you won't need to prove anything to anyone.

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How to go faster than jQuery, Ext, Mootools...?
22 points by jie 15 hours ago   13 comments top 8
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3 points by bretthopper 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Two suggestions:

- Get this on GitHub

- Get a native english speaker/writer to fix up the copy

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3 points by rgbrgb 14 hours ago 1 reply      
Work on the site's design! For a JS framework to succeed, I think it has to have a beautiful site. I'm guessing designers are one of your biggest audiences.

Also, the site doesn't work with the StumbleUpon plugin for Chrome.

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2 points by jerome_etienne 13 hours ago 1 reply      
The work behind is impressive and inovative.

More general benchmarks would be nice. more real life situations maybe, even if it is hard to say what is 'real life'.

or simply to fork http://mootools.net/slickspeed/ and to put myjs in there to see how it compares.

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1 point by udp 15 hours ago 1 reply      
I haven't looked at the source, but I really like your idea of dynamically generating code for speed. Good work!

I'll be sure to check it out next time I work on something personal that isn't already jQuery centric. :-)

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1 point by tnorthcutt 12 hours ago 0 replies      
Clickable: http://myjs.fr
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1 point by sylvinus 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I, for one, would like some of these micro-optimizations to make their way into the mainstream frameworks ; I don't see my.js getting big in the current state of things but merged into jQuery, it could really help us all :)
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1 point by AlK 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Really nice framework ! I'll try it in a future project.

Am I the only one who can't browse the documentation on myjs.fr ? on any browser on Linux.

Also, check this awesome speed benchmark ! http://jsperf.com/my-js-perf-tests/4

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1 point by samkiller18 13 hours ago 1 reply      
I was at ParisJS during your presentation. From what I saw it really looks promising. I have yet to try it but it seems like a great stuff.
Good work though.
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.ly domain reseller suspended by SoftLayer citing US/UN Sanctions
15 points by strebel 10 hours ago   1 comment top
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0 points by haploid 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Hahaha. Oh good ol' post-merger SoftLayer.

This is nothing new for them. They have a long history of violating their own TOS and shutting down customers, without warning, for arbitrary and capricious reasons, then blaming/citing someone else for "making" them do it.

See Wikileaks and SimpleCDN for the most visible examples; there are many more, though.

We left SL last year and couldn't be happier.

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Ask HN: Hacker career change
8 points by 1as 9 hours ago   6 comments top 6
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1 point by daimyoyo 1 hour ago 0 replies      
I asked a similar question recently and the best answer I received was to start coding on the side, then once your side project can bring in an income that matches what you make now, you can pursue it full time.
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1 point by karanbhangui 8 hours ago 0 replies      
You don't need a compsci degree to do web development. Learn python and pickup http://www.djangoproject.com/. Sure there are many alternatives, but beginners often are overwhelmed with choice. Take those two and go build!
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1 point by triviatise 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Im not that good at just reading about a language or going through tutorials. I typically have to have a target project to keep me focused and use that to learn new languages. Decide what you want to build and start building it.
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1 point by petervandijck 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Can you make your existing job more hacker-y? Can you work your passion as a hobby, for a non-prof etc?

If your dream is to be involved in a web app startup, polish your skills, start small and start one.

Don't quit your job because of that though.

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0 points by haploid 8 hours ago 0 replies      
If you already have an engineering degree and you are numerate, then pick up Knuth and start reading. After that, Abelson/Sussman.

It is advisable that you do this before picking up "Learn Ruby/Erlang/Clojure/node.js In 13 Seconds" or whatever the latest shiny toy is that the startup groupie kids are fapping to this month.

Between Knuth and Abelson you will have a solid foundation that 90% of web app hackers lack, and will likely be capable of becoming good with whatever tool you choose to use.

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1 point by mgse 8 hours ago 0 replies      
Code, code, and then code some more.

I've read quite a few similar posts over the last few months and that has been the answer almost every time. Can't say I disagree.

Going back to school will take years, cost you some good chunk of change, and when you're finished you'll likely look back and realize all the programming you learned was in your spare time anyway, not due to class.

Pick a language/framework, a project, and start learning.

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Ask HN: What is the best billing system?
3 points by symkat 6 hours ago   4 comments top 4
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1 point by thematt 1 hour ago 0 replies      
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1 point by LeBlanc 3 hours ago 0 replies      
You could use WePay.

The API is solid, has good documentation, and supports multiple types of recurring payments. People can pay you with a credit card or bank account.

https://www.wepay.com/developer/reference

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1 point by mikiem 6 hours ago 0 replies      
At M5hosting.com we use Ubersmith. Its designed for hosting and it supports everything on your list. We are very happy with it, and the company is very responsive to support and to feature requests etc. I have never been entirely happy with a billing system, but Ubersmith is the best for us and we are very happy. Perhaps the worst software I have ever bought ot used was ModernBill (maybe now called Parallels billing). Good luck.
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1 point by lolz 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Billmax, hobviously
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Ask HN: Do you automate most of your routine tasks?
30 points by iworkforthem 1 day ago   25 comments top 23
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7 points by patio11 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I get bored easily with repetitive work. Generally about the third time I find myself doing something, is on the short-list to get some level of automation applied to it.

BCC is in maintenance mode, which means that my only interaction with the site is customer support and moving money around once a week to cover bills and my paycheck. Everything else is automated or outsourced. Bookkeeping for sales, for example, is 99.96% automatic. (Chargeback? Bah, you always miss one case...) Bookkeeping for expenses is about 90 ~ 95% static from month to month modulo dates and numbers, so I have my VA do it for me. Order fulfillment is automatic. Routine server administration is automatic. Customer services problems are, to the extent practical, automatic.

See generally: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/03/20/running-a-software-busin...

I should probably find a week or so to give BCC in the near future to make the ghost ship a wee bit less rudderless. (Like restarting content creation for it -- that was 99% automatic when I had a freelancer actively working on it, but she quit and I haven't bothered replacing her for... far too long now, it seems.)

AR and my consulting work are both less mature and, by nature, require more hands on attention. Still, you could reasonably expect that as I get more of a hang on what the business needs and where I add the most value to it, more work will get pushed off onto systems or processes.

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4 points by jarin 20 hours ago 0 replies      
I use Moonshine for automating server configuration and Rails deployment, git aliases for shortening commonly used git commands, and zsh aliases for shortening things like "cd ~/wiki; soywiki" to "wiki".

I also spent a few bucks on an 8 GB RAM upgrade so I could just set MySQL, Postgres, MongoDB, and Redis to run on startup and not have to stop and start them whenever I am working on different apps, and I still have plenty of RAM left over for Photoshop, Starcraft II, etc.

I also spend time practicing vim tricks for things that commonly require a bunch of keystrokes, since practicing shortcuts until they become automatic is effectively the same thing as automating the task itself.

There are also a lot of things I don't automate, but it basically boils down to whether or not I use them enough to make it annoying enough to make me want to automate them. For example, I know that it's possible to set up a Rails template that creates a new Rails app with all of the gems, plugins, and configuration that you commonly use, but since I only create new Rails apps once every two weeks or so it's not enough of a pain that I want to spend the time creating the template.

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7 points by perlgeek 21 hours ago 0 replies      
I can't automate most of my routine tasks, and I'm not sure I would if I could: eating, sleeping, taking the bike to work, talking to people, ...

I do automate many of my computer related tasks. Since I'm a fan of the command line, small perl scripts, shell scripts and aliases do a lot of "work" for me.

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3 points by mopoke 23 hours ago 1 reply      
Depends on the definition of "some time" compared to the 2 weeks (solid?) it would take the automate. And how long you expect to continue doing said tasks.

That said, I would always err on the side of automating - at least some of the tasks. Take the low hanging fruit and tackle those first.

For example, I send out a weekly report containing a bunch of metrics sourced from our website monitoring tool. It took me a couple of days to automate that, but it saves me a good hour every week (and means I don't make mistakes copying and pasting figures which I used to with alarming regularity). It also means that my Monday mornings can start immediately without pounding through a repetitive task.

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3 points by hoop 20 hours ago 0 replies      
How long do you plan on being there? How much time will you spend on these tasks in the long run?

If the cost of performing these small tasks over some specified period of time outweighs the cost automating them, and they /are/ in fact easily automated, then I think the answer here is clear: AUTOMATE.

Tasks I've automated:

* Server/OS/software deployment

* Daily calculation of linear regression of email queues on my mail servers

* Webcam snapshots and automatic uploads - http://www.charleshooper.net/blog/automating-webcam-snapshot...

* Most tasks requiring data entry - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2359287

* And lots and lots of other things

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5 points by jwall 21 hours ago 0 replies      
practice, practice, practice

The more you automate routine tasks, the faster you'll become. Don't just do a calculation of:

# of times to do a menial task * amount of time to do menial task <> amount of time to automate

That oversimplifies and doesn't take into account how much faster you'll be at scripting etc. in 20 years if you take every opportunity to hone your skills. Think of it like touch typing; might slow you down at first, but you're going to more than make up for it by the end of your career.

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2 points by bartl 20 hours ago 1 reply      
Yes I do. For example, I have a little script to install Drupal modules, which is nothing more than downloading the tarball from the Drupal website, and untarring it in the proper directory.

Likewise, I've got scripts to extract strings to translate (with gettext()) using xgettext from various project directories, and merging it with older, already existing translations; and for installing edited translations afterwards (with msgfmt).

I also have a script to upload files that were changed locally to a remote server.

No, it didn't take me 2 weeks to code them.

Most of the time I just do the task once, and store the commands in a file. Next I edit that file replacing values with script arguments. Tada! Instant script. For lists of values that depend on the project, I create presets (one argument determines what set of values to use).

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2 points by roel_v 21 hours ago 0 replies      
I used to, until I spend a whole day on a vim script that, realistically, only would save me significant amounts of time by the time the work I was automating would bring in 1000's of dollars a day.

Nowadays I only do it after it's been proven (or I'm 100% certain up front) that a certain task will come up more often, and that letting someone else do it is not feasible or cheaper.

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2 points by y0ghur7_xxx 22 hours ago 0 replies      
I would, and I do. Coding is much more fun than doing repetitive tasks, and once it's done you are just so much quicker in completing that particular task. This is true even for very simple tasks. For example I have to copy some files to a network share once a month or so. It does not take much time to do manually, but I had to open a file explorer, search the source folder, ctrl+a, ctrl+c, search the destination folder and ctrl+v.

Now it's just a doubleclick on a .cmd file on my desktop.

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1 point by smarterchild 10 hours ago 0 replies      
While I automate some computer related tasks, I can't automate house chores, working out, etc.

So I wrote an app to remind me:
http://i.imgur.com/exzb0.png

I find this sort of thing most useful if you have chores that you want to do regularly, but not on a specific day (i.e. clean every Tuesday).

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1 point by dhimes 21 hours ago 0 replies      
I automate all the small, repetitive tasks I can. Even when I'm heavy into coding (where I'm working with JS/php/db all day long every day), I'll have a script which opens my terminal and editors and the db etc. so that my day starts with a ./startEd.sh command.

Right now I'm setting up a staging server for my new webapp (I'm frantically working towards a private beta). This is new learning for me- and I'm writing a script for everything I do (that I can). This not only sets up a way for me to do setup/config tasks automatically, so I don't make typos, etc.), but also documents what I'm doing. I hadn't considered that aspect of it before I started writing these scripts.

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1 point by jackkinsella 11 hours ago 0 replies      
I'd automate everything if given enough time. To me it's the essence of running an efficient business (and indeed scaling). Some examples:

1) I automated the creation of Google Adwords CPC keywords for my ecommerce website. Based on attributes of the product, the algorithm creates 500 unique keyword combinations. Over the coming days I will automate the creation of entire campaigns.

2) I automated gathering information about 200 universities by hiring a smart virtual assistant.

3) I automate my customer support emails by using canned responses.

4) I automate the running of my unit tests so that they run whenever I save relevant files.

5)I continue to automate my code base by writing new layers of abstraction which call lower layers intelligently.

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2 points by HerraBRE 21 hours ago 0 replies      
I automate as much as I can. Sometimes I'll even "automate" a one-off task, simply because writing steps down in a shell script makes it easier to review what is about to happen and avoid trashing, say, a big chunk of my digital photo album... :-)

Automation doesn't just save time; it also avoids many mistakes caused by fat-fingering things or forgetting step 6 of an 8 stage process.

Also, once you have automated something, you've (at least potentially) created a tool you can share with someone else, which is good for teamwork, delegation and continuity in a work-place.

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1 point by ulrich 21 hours ago 0 replies      
Two weeks are quite some time for an automation. But depending on how much time you spend every day, you might want to go for it. It's not only about saving time daily, it's even more about scaling things up.

If the process is automated, it should be quite easy to use modified versions for similar problems. And you can quickly run it again and again without having to worry about making mistakes.

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1 point by cmontgomeryb 23 hours ago 0 replies      
I have started automating a lot of the smaller, repetetive tasks. It doesn't save a huge amount of time, just removes small annoyances and friction. One example is that I'm new to OSX, so I was playing with Automator and have used it to create a command which brings up my entire development environment. This saves only 1.5 to 2 minutes each time, but it removes that friction when I get home from work I can just put my laptop on the sofa and have the dev environment load while I make a drink.

At work we have to create performance reports monthly for a particular client. The procedure has always been to do it manually, which takes around 4 to 5 hours. Writing the code to automate this in C# took less than 4 hours and now the reports take 2 to 3 minutes each month. Time well spent, money definitely saved.

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2 points by coolgeek 18 hours ago 0 replies      
"We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, and hubris."

-- Larry Wall

Task automation encompasses all three virtues:

Laziness - "I don't want to do this task every (other) day"

Impatience - "I don't want to spend time doing this task"

Hubris - "Of course this will work on the first try"

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1 point by einaregilsson 22 hours ago 0 replies      
I try to automate as much as I can. I also use these little programs/scripts as opportunities to learn something new. Examples:

1. We had a support portal at work which I had to check regularly during the day. I wrote a small program that monitors the relevant page and pops up a taskbar notification when something new arrives. Used the opportunity to learn about taskbar notifications and a little WPF.

2. I sometimes get database backups from customers and have to restore them on my machine, which means opening SQL Management studio, clicking and right clicking a bunch of things. Then I need to add myself as user, change a couple of settings before I can use the database for anything. I wrote a small utility so I can right click on any .bak file in explorer, choose Restore database and update the relevant tables so the database is ready to use right away with the connection string on the clipboard. Also used it as an opportunity to learn about windows 7 taskbar progress bars.

Basically I like doing small projects, but I never finish them unless they really do something. So, automating stuff I do makes much more sense than learning by following a tutorial that builds something useless.

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1 point by asymptotic 17 hours ago 0 replies      
I try to automate tasks in a hierarchical, re-usable fashion, based on log file output, and always in a pragmatic, least-cost approach. No-one is paying me to make my life easier.

For example, I'll find myself performing tasks X, Y, and Z quite a lot. I'll find out that I have 20 minutes free and I'll figure out the most common denominator of the tasks, let's call it A, and then implement it. I'll quickly re-write the high level processes X, Y, Z and to use A and then move on with my life. The up-shot is that future tasks B, C, D, E, F can all use the now-battle-hardened procedure A, and maybe others in my company will find A useful.

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1 point by johnnytee 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Check out http://sikuli.org/. It's visual based programming for automating task. I use it all the time and it's super fast to set up.
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1 point by forkrulassail 21 hours ago 0 replies      
Yes, server tasks, deployment tasks. My daily routine 'feels' automated to a large extent and I'm still trying to optimize for output.

When I say my daily routine feels automated I mean, when I have two boring tasks I usually combine them to make them less inane. So an automata type scenario comes into play. I don't have to 'think' about the two crappy but necessary tasks.

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1 point by swah 21 hours ago 0 replies      
It is sad though, that we can automate software hassles with such ease, but we can't automate real world tasks yet.
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1 point by jogo3000 23 hours ago 0 replies      
I have similar experiences with mopoke.

I've automated a lot of small tasks lately and as a result I have a small library of stuff which makes it easier and faster to automate yet more small tasks. It definitely is worth the invested time.

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1 point by szcukg 22 hours ago 0 replies      
I automate a lot of excel and outlook related work
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Ask HN: Any advice for our first meeting with an angel investor?
6 points by ncash 10 hours ago   4 comments top 4
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1 point by dmlevi 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I have not received from Angel Investors currently but I made a a couple pitches to some In Chicago and also received great advice from a highly respected investment banker in NYC. That being said make sure you have a clear path to revenue, it should be easy to understand. Secondly make sure your pro-forma and all your numbers make clear and logical sense. Your predictions cant be too conservative or too far fetched, use your best judgment. You wont receive any offers tomorrow so dont worry about negotiating. If they for some odd reason do make an offer, just ask to sleep on it.

Be enthusiastic and convincing. At the end of the day, you are selling. Good luck.

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1 point by mindfulbee 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Definitely work on telling your story. I think thats the most crucial part in creating an imagery of who your consumer audience is.

Also, have you been valued at a price yet? I would be slightly weary of negotiations over equity if you are in your micro stages. Just because it's easier to be valued higher over time. (I.e. you're easier to go from a value of 0 to 10 million then from 1 million to a 10 million valuation) If you're in your infant stages...I would stall it out for awhile, but that's just my 2 cents. =) hope that helps?

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1 point by DHuang 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Don't be intimidated, take control of the meeting. Confidence reflects success, as a matter of fact, just think of any initial meeting with an important investor as a first date with a girl, stay cool, be charming and impress.
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1 point by rksprst 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Be clear on what you want. If you want funding, specifically ask for it.
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Ask HN How to save time?
5 points by bigbang 10 hours ago   7 comments top 5
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5 points by rdouble 9 hours ago 0 replies      
I've found that when I turn the Internet off I suddenly have so much time it kind of makes me anxious.
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2 points by kaisdavis 10 hours ago 1 reply      
1. I use a hosts file to block sites like hackernews, tech crunch

2. I set objectives the night before for the following day. I identify 3-5 things that I'll accomplish the following day and then I focus on doing those things.

3. I work in pomodoro sprints - 25 minute bursts of focus.

4. I keep a notepad next to my computer so when I'm working in a sprint and I have one of those "oooh, I should check that out!" thoughts, I can write it down, close the loop, and get back to what I'm working on.

5. I take breaks. When I find myself getting distracted, I take a walk around the office / outside.

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2 points by keiferski 9 hours ago 0 replies      
1. Brush your teeth in the shower.

2. Listen to podcasts/news while cooking, working out, etc. Never only watch / listen to a show, always do something else simultaneously.

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2 points by triviatise 10 hours ago 1 reply      
I wait for my email to hit 500-600 (I skim and try to address important stuff as it comes in) and then just delete them all. I do let everyone know when Ive cleaned out my mailbox. I get 100-200 emails a day and I just cant read them all.

I also only read email every few hours or so.

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2 points by kingsidharth 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Turn on "noprocrast" on HN
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Am I getting a good deal?
6 points by foohbar 11 hours ago   7 comments top 6
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5 points by rdouble 10 hours ago 0 replies      
That is not a good deal, but is a pretty typical deal.
You aren't entitled to whinge about it quite yet. Wait until they hire their college bud as vp of product for $140k and 5 equity points. When that happens print out a calendar that ends on the date of your 1 year vesting cliff and tape it above your bed. Welcome to the glamorous world of startups.
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1 point by staunch 4 hours ago 0 replies      
The salary is fine. You should be able to live comfortably on $75k, even in the bay area (assuming you have no kids/mortgage).

The equity isn't ridiculously low, but it's not high either. You should probably push for more if you can.

At the end of the day though the guy across the street with 5% of a crappy startup isn't getting a better deal than you if your company rocks.

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1 point by kgo 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Well if you actually chose not to work at Google or Facebook, there were obviously other motivating factors than a decent salary. None of these other factors are listed here. So it's impossible to say.

Of course many people here will immediately judge everything by dollar amount alone, but by that logic no one should work for NASA, which has crappy pay.

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1 point by phlux 11 hours ago 1 reply      
No.

EDIT:

What will the company lose if you walk? That is what your equity should be based on. Given your brief bio, it would seem as though you can offer a lot to the company.

What contribution are you making to the product - aside from doing 40% of the work, are you contributing to design/product decisions, novel ways to implement the features? Is there any IP onto which your name would be should it be granted a patent?

What other options do you have with respect to other opportunities?

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1 point by dman 10 hours ago 0 replies      
Also depends on whether your current role is challenging you enough and is in an area that you want to excel in. If you are young and just getting started sometimes the opportunity of mastering the field is itself very valuable.
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1 point by android2 7 hours ago 0 replies      
If one has to ask whether or not they got a good deal, is there really any possible chance that they got a good deal? Are you hoping the founders were simply charitable?
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Ask HN: Where to host video for landing pages
6 points by sashthebash 11 hours ago   6 comments top 6
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1 point by arn 5 hours ago 0 replies      
I have no data on this. But I don't find using YouTube unprofessional. Also, I'm not sure how embeddable your video will be, but as a blogger, I much prefer people using YouTube so those videos can be embedded easily, and playable on iOS devices.
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2 points by staunch 7 hours ago 0 replies      
S3 + Cloudfront. Many people use Vimeo as well, which has minimal branding and supports high quality.

I haven't actually used them myself, but Wistia does deep tracking of plays.

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1 point by robflynn 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I have always used Vimeo on the past for this sort of thing.

I definitely prefer it over youtube based on quality of video, bandwidth (a lot of youtube videos that I try suffer from playback issues), and branding.

Hosting on S3 or some other CDN is also an option if you don't mind paying a bit.

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1 point by pokoleo 3 hours ago 0 replies      
I personally hate vimeo because of their horrible fallback & lack of some forms of IE support.

If you're using IE without flash installed (in my experience), it defaults to a black background with black text on top. great user experience.

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2 points by cafeguy87 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Vimeo all the way! Simple to use, looks great, comes up well in natural search results.

http://vimeo.com/plus

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1 point by wmboy 9 hours ago 0 replies      
Host the video file on Amazon S3 and then use something like JWPlayer to show the video on your website.
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How I got to #12 (and still climbing) in the iTunes App Store
35 points by avgarrison 1 day ago   22 comments top 13
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2 points by werdelin 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Andrew, congratulations on great launch! One of the things we are doing at allify.com is to allow you to 'bank' cross promotions credits. So if you plan to launch a new game, you can add an cross promotion unit and promote other apps. When you are then ready to launch your new app we will then give you back the impressions that you gave to the network pre-launch. Its a bit different from what you are doing - but same type of concept. All in all, great to hear tips like that - more power to independent app makers :) Best, henrik at allify
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1 point by rrhoover 1 hour ago 0 replies      
Great idea and thanks for sharing, Andrew! Would you be able to share your email open and click through rates?
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1 point by alex_c 1 day ago 0 replies      
Congrats on your success! It's an incredible rush. Be careful, the feeling is addictive ;)
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3 points by pkamb 1 day ago 1 reply      
What are your thoughts on pricing the game at $.99? Did much thinking go into that, or is $.99 just the de facto price for any successful game?
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2 points by wmboy 1 day ago 1 reply      
Just wondering... is it against Apple's TOS to have locked levels you can only unlock if a user signs up to your newsletter?

Because if it's not, that would be a great way to build an email subscriber list.

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4 points by charlesdm 1 day ago 0 replies      
Can you disclose some revenue numbers?
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3 points by egb 1 day ago 1 reply      
How many copies have you sold of your other games? (Looking for the other number that goes with 30k emails + ?k app updates = #12 in appstore)
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1 point by EtienneJohnred 11 hours ago 0 replies      
Nice job. I saw the app zooming up the charts last night and was trying to figure out what was causing it to rise so fast.
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1 point by riskish 1 day ago 1 reply      
Andrew -- do you have an email we can ping you at? I have been wanting to try iphone development, specifically with the box2d physics engine, would love to chat.
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1 point by jackkinsella 1 day ago 0 replies      
Congratulations, sounds like you got the success you deserved for putting in such careful forethought.

Thanks a million for sharing this marketing technique!

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2 points by pisoi 1 day ago 1 reply      
How did u collect the emails? just a popup in the middle of the game asking for the user email? who would agree to that?

(i admire your geniousity)

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1 point by mapster 1 day ago 1 reply      
I want more secrets on iphone development - do you have a blog? I applaud your effort and success!
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1 point by MichaelStubbs 1 day ago 1 reply      
I don't suppose you're planning on bringing this to Android any time soon? It looks like a game I'd be interested in.

Congratulations on your success!

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Show HN: Node.js console chat (ssh ttychat@chat.syskall.com)
7 points by olalonde 19 hours ago   1 comment top
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1 point by chopsueyar 19 hours ago 0 replies      
Cool idea. Text input and other user's messages overwrite one another.

I like it.

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Ask HN: Leaving college to work on a startup?
16 points by cprussin 1 day ago   17 comments top 16
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8 points by keiferski 1 day ago 0 replies      
I am in a similar situation (20 years old, semi-dropping out to start a company.) Here's my advice/what I'm doing:

1) Don't drop out entirely. Being a part time student allows you to still access most of the university resources. Many of these can be very valuable.

2) Don't drop out to work on your project. Start planning what you're doing, begin to work on it, show it to people, and then drop out once it looks promising.

It's tempting to drop out right away, but if you have no plan, no skills, and no money, it's a recipe for disaster. It's also expensive; paying the rent and food is no fun and occupies my mind too often.

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1 point by systemtrigger 6 hours ago 0 replies      
Who is paying for your college tuition? If it's Mom and Dad, I think you're a fool if you leave school. A degree from a reputable college significantly improves your market bargaining position. How much of your future earning potential are you willing to gamble on your startup idea? How brilliant is your business plan and how accomplished are your hacking skills?

> I feel confident that I could start a successful startup around the idea.

How confident and how successful? Many YC companies aren't ramen profitable. What makes you so positive that your startup is a sure thing?

I'm not saying you can't do it. I'm just saying there are a lot of smart, miserable people in the deadpool--and you should know why you're special. Make sure your strategy is solid, check your assumptions, check them again, and good luck.

> I can always come back and finish.

Are you positive you'd have enough money to pay the remainder of your tuition and that the admissions department would welcome you back?

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2 points by almond 13 hours ago 0 replies      
You're too young to remember how at the height of the late 90s "dot com" tech bubble, people were not only dropping out of college to join and start companies, some were even dropping out of high school. Then the tide went out and we coined a new term for the masses of the unemployed and non-degreed: "dot bombers." The conventional wisdom at that point was, "they should have taken the long view." Now we can add your question as a new data point in comparing the current situation to the 90s bubble.

Ideas are cheap, and the future is long. Your idea will still exist in a year or two and there's plenty that can be done part-time until then. You may decide in the future to change careers, to have a kid, to go to grad school. Having a college degree will be an important foundation for wherever you decide to go. It will be much harder to come back and finish later.

Gates and Zuckerberg dropped out because success had already arrived. Just as a smart investor waits for a proof of concept before investing serious money, you should do the same with your personal capital.

One more note: College may be the last time you'll be able to pursue off-the-beaten path interests and understand more about yourself. Take an extra course in calligraphy, or advanced operating system design, or mythology, or history-- whatever passions or passing interests you have never had a chance to nurture. In addition to shoring up your tech background, you'll become a more well-rounded person, which (besides the intrinsic benefits) is something companies like to see when they hire. Give serendipity a chance to happen in the great mixing bowl and incubator that college is.

Good luck!

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1 point by haploid 16 hours ago 0 replies      
You won't "come back and finish", or at least it's very unlikely. Your brain will never be more plastic than it is right now.

To echo the other comments here, what prevents you from working on your idea without dropping out? Is it the kind of project that requires 16 hour marathon hacking sessions every day for months on end?

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1 point by mindfulbee 5 hours ago 0 replies      
Man, I have the same issue. However, I've decided to stay in school for the time being.

(20 years old, like the other person)

Reasons for not dropping:

1) YOU have a HUGE MARKET. Who know's other college students better then you or myself? Market your product to your peers and use them as your test pilot. VALIDATE your ideas.

2)Also, if you've come up with various ideas and keep coming up with them then you won't miss out on anything. Sure things may change, but also ideas grow and you create new ones.

3) If you're in Washington, DC contact me.

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1 point by bricestacey 16 hours ago 0 replies      
If in the long term I end up needing the degree, I can always come back and finish.

Technically? Yes. Probably? No. If you ever "need" a degree, you probably failed at your startup and are looking for a job. It's going to be tough going back. Worse, you're going to be older and probably have greater financial obligations. I never dropped out of college, but I started working full-time halfway through and it's been very tough to keep myself motivated to finish. If I had left and hadn't had that momentum I doubt I would've gone back.

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1 point by 101north 1 day ago 0 replies      
That's awesome that you've come across an idea that excites you. However, I'd advise against leaving college. Before I get into why, I just wanted to mention that I totally know where you're coming from, as I graduated from college relatively recently with a degree that has very little to do with tech, and I definitely related to that feeling of disenchantment

1. Regardless of whether or not your startup works out, it's likely that you'll apply to/work for someone else's company one day (even if it's briefly). While there is this growing notion that one doesn't need a college degree to qualify for a position, it's not widely adopted yet and I wouldn't count on it being widely adopted in the near future. With that said, taking a leave from college and going back a year later would be an absolute bummer. If you're disenchanted now, you'd be 10X as much once you're back there, because all your peers will have graduated.

2. Even if what you're learning doesn't interest you, the experience of college is an education in of itself - in both discipline and the social world.

Regarding discipline, we can work all we want at our startups, but if we really need to take a day off then we probably can. There's no one to answer to other than ourselves. If there's a midterm on Monday, and the world is crashing down the week before, you're still going to have to take that midterm. Even if you're not into what you're learning, forcing yourself to do work you don't want to is important, and is a skill that will be necessary no matter what company you start.

Regarding the social world, the college experience is pretty key in helping you find yourself and shape yourself as a person. Right now you're a part of a journey, but if you came back a couple years later it will definitely feel different.

3. As another commenter mentioned, start the idea while you're in college without taking a leave. Ideas are merely hypotheses. Wait until your hypothesis is validated through user adoption/etc. before you consider leaving school.

4. Worst comes to worst, if you don't get to execute the idea because of college, just trust that you're going to have another killer idea. I'm sure you're intelligent and you're clearly ambitious. Ideas might have life-spans but your creativity won't.

5. Standing up on graduation day after pulling through 4 years straight is an incredible feeling, and I'm sure I speak for many of us when I say that it's a day where you're just really proud of yourself for pulling through. Unless you have a totally horrendous experience, it'll feel worth it on graduation day.

With that said, I wish I majored in CS in college and sat in on more psychology lectures :)

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1 point by rendezvouscp 1 day ago 0 replies      
I see no reason for you to wait to work on your idea, regardless of whether or not you're in college. Is there anything about your idea that would require you to raise capital and only focus your attention on it? If not, I'd recommend starting the work now and wait until you get to the point where you need to take time off from school to further your startup.

I worked on my startup while in college, and continued to do so for a couple of years. When I didn't have enough time in the day to give my startup the attention it needed, I took educational leave from school and focused on it. Now, after a year sabbatical, I'm back in school and my startup is profitable. I'd suggest doing the same once your startup looks promising.

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4 points by vantran 1 day ago 0 replies      
I don't see why you can't just work on your idea while in college. Would be far better than dropping out while there's nothing to show for it.
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1 point by martinshen 13 hours ago 1 reply      
I go to Babson College and run into similar situations to this everyday here. For those running something techie (which I assume considering we're on HN), I don't understand why people cannot balance school and work. Not to toot my own horn but I've been running a web design firm (pulling mid 5 figures this quarter for me), gotten a 3.3 GPA and built out a new product http://upout.com.

You don't need to drop out to do well. You just need to sacrifice some of your social life and television (and Facebook).

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2 points by devan 20 hours ago 0 replies      
19. At uni. Dropping out.

I'm going to miss the people here, but my idea is more important to me than a degree.

You'll find out what's really important to you. There's no real benefit to waiting, unless your idea needs the knowledge from a degree to execute. Waiting will just delay the idea and you'd probably loose passion on it.

If you're still un-sure work parttime on your start up til' you have a prototype.

D

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1 point by beatpanda 12 hours ago 0 replies      
Don't drop out. You're statistically much more likely to be succesful having completed your bachelor's degree than not.

Finishing college is important precisely because it gives you some idea of what it's like to finish something difficult (or boring).

You will likely become just as disenchanted with your idea, or your startup, or your company, or whatever, as you are with academia once the going gets tough. And it will.

Looking back of it, you'll stop believing it was a waste of time, and in the scheme of things, a few more years is nothing. Stick it out.

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1 point by gersh 1 day ago 0 replies      
Go ahead and start working on your idea. Recruit other students to help you. Put together prototype and a team. Try pitching investors. Try pitching potential customers. See what happens.

You will only get a conflict if working on your startup starts interfering with getting your degree. It doesn't appear that has happened yet.

Everybody has ideas. If you really want to start a company, start making it happen.

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1 point by bgalbraith 1 day ago 0 replies      
As someone who has been in a similar situation, think honestly about why you are disenchanted. Is it because you are taking required classes that don't interest you at the moment and the homework/projects seem like tedious busy work? Is it because you think your degree will be a piece of paper leading to a 9-to-5 in a cubicle, if you're lucky? Or is it because you're driven to work on a project that you hack away day and night on, and class seems like an annoyance that gets in the way?

If it's the latter, and you have a promising opportunity to roll into right away, then there's reason to think hard about your options. Otherwise I'd highly recommend you stick it out and get the degree.

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1 point by amac 1 day ago 0 replies      
I graduated, but made the mistake of not starting a project whilst at college. If you start now, you could have something to work on after college - with a degree in hand too.

If it becomes too much, you'll then have to choose one over the other.

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1 point by JoshKalkbrenner 1 day ago 0 replies      
"if it becomes available" I would pursue my passion. In the meantime, I would stick with what I have - rather than risk something I do not.
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I've decided to stop upvoting articles that have nothing to do with startups
18 points by DennisP 18 hours ago   15 comments top 10
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2 points by _delirium 15 hours ago 1 reply      
Oddly, I agree with almost all of your comment, except the headline part about "startups". =]

I am also wary of all the general news creeping in (not least because I seem to find myself reading/participating in the discussions despite intentions). But the "good" content I come here for is from my perspective the technical articles, while I don't have a lot of interest in the startup-related stuff, except insofar as it sometimes also includes solid technical content.

I mean, in a sense I therefore am interested in startups, since a lot of technical innovation comes from there. But more Woz and less Jobs would be my reading preference.

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3 points by mkr-hn 16 hours ago 0 replies      
I've noticed two distinct groups on HN:

People like you, who come to HN for startup news

People like me, who come to HN for HN's take on news

The rift is causing more headaches for both sides as time goes on (and it's not going to go away on its own), so it's reasonable to split HN into two subsites: Hacker News and Startup News.

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2 points by mhd 14 hours ago 1 reply      
Depending on how broad you use the term "startup", I might agree. The discussion about programming (and other technical) topics here is usually on a pretty high level, apart from the usual crowd jumping on every hyped bandwagon. Generally on a much, much higher level than "pure" startup news â€" which most of the time are (bad) economics 101 or sheer self-help book territory.
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1 point by bmelton 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Amen.

Lately, I feel like the old curmudgeon yelling at kids to get off my lawn with moderations, edits, etc. Trying not to complain about it publicly just makes it even worse. I considered starting a thread to ask people to downvote more, which is something I never used to do.

The catch, I think, is that even if you could clearly demarcate exactly where the line is for what HN actually stands for, how do you figure out who is on which side of that line? What I think HN is isn't the same as probably anybody else, completely;

I also don't want this to become Reddit, or even general interest. While I'm loathe to reference a 'glory days' era, lest I insult those for whom the glory day was before I arrived, when I got to HN, it was decidedly more startup-focused. What wasn't startup-focused generally required significant thought.

Something else I haven't seen much of lately is a good-old fashioned Erlang-bomb.

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2 points by brudgers 17 hours ago 1 reply      
It makes sense if the primary value one sees in HN is the articles, i.e. HN as high quality news aggregator.

If the primary value one sees is in the insight provided by the comments, it perhaps makes less sense, i.e. HN as a high quality discussion forum.

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1 point by RiderOfGiraffes 18 hours ago 1 reply      
So should I not upvote this submission, because it's not about startups?

More seriously, I've taken to voting mostly for those things that are specific to the hacker/entrepreneur audience, and which I think contain valuable material. There are a few exceptions, but I apply the test: Should this be interesting to non-hackers/founders? If so, don't upvote, and consider flagging.

But it's too late. If only more people would take the pledge, but they won't. It's nearly time to move on - it's been an interesting two-and-a-bit years.

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1 point by jasonshen 15 hours ago 0 replies      
I think the content on HN has continued to follow the general guidelines set out here: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html which makes me think we're doing ok.

"If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity."

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1 point by jamesmcintyre 15 hours ago 0 replies      
Here's an idea, buy the domain and steal it!

Filter It (http://fltr.it)

Install the fltr.it browser extension and you will begin to see the site's you visit most frequently in a different, more relevant way through the fltr.it overlay heatmap. The content fltr.it thinks is most relevant to your interests is highlighted. Not only does fltr.it learn your interests as you browse the web, it learns the interests of other visitors to the same sites and if enough users on a particular site use fltr.it our algorithms will begin "clumping" like-minded users' filters to the site and you can hop from one site-specific filter to another on-the-fly. See Hacker News through the "startup" fltr, the "science" fltr or the "random" fltr or even combine fltrs.

fltr.it preserves the underlying social and cultural dynamics of each site's userbase while augmenting the site's ability to present the most relevant content to each user-type.

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1 point by veyron 18 hours ago 0 replies      
Amen to that. I've long since concluded that there must be some sort of spambot just flooding the site with posts from various blogs and news sources, even if they arent even tangentially related to HN
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1 point by swah 18 hours ago 1 reply      
Would segmenting HN like reddit work?
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Ask HN: Anyone recommend BaseCampHQ alternatives?
5 points by allanchao 13 hours ago   10 comments top 7
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1 point by webbruce 3 hours ago 0 replies      
Finishing up http://ReadyTakeoff.com in the next few days :)
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1 point by dutchrapley 12 hours ago 1 reply      
"I've been a fan of Fogbugz for a long time, but I have a team of 5, and can't afford $125/month unfortunately."

Agreed, $125/mo. may be more than you or I are willing to spend. I don't understand how it's over the top if you're on the hook for a team of 5.

Personally, I wouldn't use Fogbugz based on the fact that it costs $125/mo. But, I know I'm not their target audience.

You might want to take a look at one of the following

Unfuddle - Project Management + Git/Subversion Hosting
http://unfuddle.com/

Assembla
http://www.assembla.com/

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1 point by PMHacker 6 hours ago 0 replies      
I agree - $125 is way overpriced. Try TaskPoint http://www.taskpoint.com which is highly customized SaaS fork of popular open source package Redmine and was MassChallenge finalist last year.
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1 point by drKarl 13 hours ago 1 reply      
We have been using Project Turf for a month now and we like it so far. The user interface is sleek, you have unlimited users and unlimited storage and the prices are quite reasonable.
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1 point by bigohms 12 hours ago 0 replies      
ActiveCollab is similar and started out as a basecamp alternative. It's a single purchase + yearly upgrade/support fee license for your entire team.

http://www.activecollab.com

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1 point by jeffepp 11 hours ago 1 reply      
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1 point by ahsanhilal 13 hours ago 0 replies      
rule.fm is a new entrant. I haven't ever used it but it looks pretty good. Worth checking out.
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Show HN: an app to help you shop for food
9 points by maxhs 15 hours ago   3 comments top
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1 point by imechura 15 hours ago 2 replies      
The best food discovery tool I have used is foodspotting.com The reason foodspotting works so well for me is because I am a sight eater. I will try anything but I want to see it first or I won't order it or try your new place.
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Ask HN: Who's hiring Data Scientists/Machine Learning Engineers?
5 points by bluishgreen 19 hours ago   5 comments top 5
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3 points by jplewicke 15 hours ago 0 replies      
The quant trading shop I work for in Boston is:

Boston, MA (not remote)
MDT Advisers - We're a small quant investing shop working with machine learning, financial analysis, and the hardest dataset in the world. We're mainly hiring for a general analyst position that's about 60% programming and 40% financial and statistical analysis -- http://www.mdtadvisers.com/careers/qea.jsp . The people, problems, and pay are good, and we aim for good work-life balance(e.g. no 60 hour weeks).

You can email me at jlewicke@mdtadvisers.com with any questions you have.

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2 points by shafqat 12 hours ago 0 replies      
NewsCred is looking for engineers in NYC.

We're looking for engineers interested in Information Retrieval, Solr, Lucene, Machine Learning, NLP etc.

We're also hosting the NYC Hadoop meetup tonight (Thursday) at our offices at General Assembly. Come by!

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2 points by revorad 19 hours ago 0 replies      
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2 points by bradfordw 19 hours ago 0 replies      
I saw this via twitter this morning, not sure what clover is, but: https://www.clover.com/jobs.html
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2 points by ynn4k 17 hours ago 0 replies      
Intelligent app search startup is looking for one http://iapps.in/jobs
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Tell HN: DropBox spamming?
3 points by RiderOfGiraffes 18 hours ago   3 comments top 2
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1 point by alisson 14 hours ago 0 replies      
As far as I know, your friend actually invited you so he/she could get some extra space.
They don't do it automatically, you need to put your friend's email there or import your contacts from your webmail.
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1 point by sycren 17 hours ago 1 reply      
This is just an invite from a friend, if you refer someone you get extra space added to your account
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Ask HN: Depression, Loss of Motivation, Feeling Lost. Please Help
36 points by throwaway7 1 day ago   47 comments top 36
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4 points by wdewind 1 day ago 0 replies      
Pretty much everyone here has talked about stuff that could be wrong with you, and it is possible, but I want to offer an alternative explanation: you aren't being challenged enough. I was in school for two years and experienced a lot of the same stuff you did (I'm 21 now, I dropped out):

1) Was smart enough to glide through classes for my whole life, college not an exception

2) Started off having a lot of fun but got over the drinking and partying phase faster than my classmates, definitely felt lack of connection with my classmates

3) Thought a lot about whether or not I was actually depressed, especially because of the lack of connection w/ classmates. Tried a lot of stuff (diet, exercise, shrink etc.) Nothing quite seemed to do the trick (though the exercise helps a ton with daily stress but will not fix depression).

Although I obviously can't recommend it to everyone, I dropped out and started working. Now I had been freelancing and doing internships since I was about 15 so I had a solid shot at an entry level position at a startup. I can't tell you how much happier it made me.

You may not be able to just drop out, but I bet if you find an internship or something that involves you in the "real world" in a way that's somewhat meaningful to you (ie: not getting coffee) you'll get a lot more satisfaction out of life.

Remember you're young, you're not exactly supposed to have it all figured out yet. Even old people don't have life figured out yet, no one ever does. You also sound pretty introverted, and self reflective. This is a really great trait, but it can be crippling if you don't know how to manage it. You'll learn to know yourself and catch yourself repeating patterns.

It doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with you to me, but again I'm just a dog on the internet. My contact info is in my profile, feel free to email me if you'd like to chat sometime.

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15 points by rosenjon 1 day ago 1 reply      
See a mental health professional. I think lots of people see this as some sign of weakness or personality flaw; that you're "crazy" if you see a psychologist or psychiatrist. That's a bunch of bull#*$(. They are there to help you put things in perspective, in ways that might be difficult to discuss with your family or friends.

With that being said, not all mental health professionals are created equally. Put together a list of those in your area. Have a session with a few of them before deciding on one. This sounds like at the very least depression, and maybe there are other things in play as well. None of these things are a big deal if dealt with properly. If not, they can last for years and put you in a bad place. Don't let it get to that stage. Make the decision to fix it now and get some help. Feel free to contact me personally if you would like to discuss in more detail.

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4 points by entangld 1 day ago 1 reply      
You definitely sound depressed.

I like to think of happiness as something I'm either taking in or using up (like food). Starving people can't immediately eat large meals. I would think of your condition in the same way, except you're starving for energy/life/happiness. You can build it up though. Find a little bit at a time until you can use that to find more.

Find something (anything) that holds your interest. So you can try to build up interest to eventual happiness. It will probably require social interaction. It would be great if you could eventually talk about a passion you have with someone who shares it.

I'm an intellectual introvert and a social animal. But if I'm in my house for weeks learning stuff, I start to lose my social appetite (meaning I don't want to talk to or meet people). Forcing yourself to do things feels meaningless, but it isn't always. You can find enjoyable times on accident. It's not always possible to predict whether you'll have a good time, so you have to use your energy to at least try.

I gave this advice to a friend and it worked. She started taking photography classes and I helped her figure out why she was depressed (moved home, no job, fewer friends, etc). Good luck.

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6 points by th0ma5 1 day ago 1 reply      
A couple of things:

1. I was in a similar state, and found out I had hyperthyroidism. Thyroid now removed, I'm much better, but there are many other such conditions that can be causing things that you might not have all the tools yourself to work out, so check with a doctor or your school's nurse at the very least.

2. Caffeine screws most people I know up. It's very fun and useful, and I don't recognize myself without it because I drank soda from a very early age, but this all could be contributing.

3. A lot of what you describe isn't too terribly bad, honestly, I mean, you need downtime, you are in college which is a hell of a lot of work.

4. The net makes you think you're terribly non-productive. Every single awesome throw-away link is some 10,000 man hours at the very least. I think we're all, in the tech world at least, trying to cope with this to varying degrees.

5. I highly recommend a counselor. Having a mostly unbiased third party is an amazing asset.

6. My big problem is not so much that I don't want to go out, just that I don't want to change what I'm doing, or I don't want to transition to the next thing. I highly recommend forcing yourself to get over that hump, and to go out and meet new people. Ask them questions. You'll hate it because they don't read the same feeds as you do, but you'll absolutely love it because if you hadn't done it, you would've never had had such a great time discovering what those people are all about. At the very least it is a great distraction, but often, people are a lot cooler than you may think.

Best of luck! You can do it!!!

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1 point by stretchwithme 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Television and computers fool our brain into thinking that it is active, but give it none of the rewards of actually taking action and either failing or succeeding.

Boycott television and don't use the computer or iPod for a day. Do what you feel like doing, as long as you are actually doing something, not simply consuming media.

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1 point by eftpotrm 1 day ago 0 replies      
I don't claim to have the answers; I do claim to have empathy. What you're describing isn't far off what I lived through around your age, though you sound like you're managing better academically with it than I did. Well done for that.

For me, exercise helps but isn't a panacaea. Proper sleep helps but too much sleep can be a symptom of depression I understand. I've had a tendency to almost obsessively research things sometiems in that position, close myself off in that pursuit then look back later and realise it's been an excuse to shut off. The people around you, odds on, care more about you and your health and happiness than you think. More of them have suffered or will suffer something like you are now than you might expect.

What little wisdom I do have in this area says to try and stay in touch with some degree of 'normal' life in the outside world. Forcing yourself into too much risks burnout which is no more helpful, but managing at least some leiure (i.e. outside classes) outside world interaction will, I suspect, help you. Most people are fundamentally nice and helpful IME, frankly,

(One little thing, you say you have no connection with your peers any more and seem to feel you've moved on beyond the pursuits that seem to interest them. For most of my life the vast bulk of my friends have been older than me; they're just who I tend to find interesting. Later stages of undergraduate education aren't conducive to significant friendships with older people than yourself though. You may find you benefit from trying to reach out into new social avenues outside education eo engage with peers at a different point in their lives than where you currently are yourself.)

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1 point by barrydahlberg 1 day ago 0 replies      
Some thoughts from personal experience:

- Stop thinking.

- Take a blank sheet of paper.

- Write 1 simple task at the top, e.g. do the laundry.

- Do not write any more tasks.

- Put the paper somewhere in your face.

- Complete said task. Force yourself to do so.

- No interruptions, get it done.

- Cross off the task.

Congratulations, you've set a goal and achieved it. Trivial, but it's progress. You are now allowed to turn the brain back on and think. Momentum is good. Breathe deep! I noticed that at extreme low points I damn near stop. Perhaps this is why exercise is recommended so much, to help you move and breathe again.

Mentally I've found two things help:

- Knowing that there is a way forward out of this mess. May require outside help and support to convince you of this.

- Simplifying and focusing on one small thing at a time. There are very few things in life that really must be done right now, some will have to wait and until there is space there's no point stressing about them.

If you have understanding friends or family, TALK.

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2 points by jhancock 1 day ago 0 replies      
Go see an MD and/or psychologist soon. Soon, as in pick up the phone or walk down the street and schedule it now and see someone this week. Its great you have reached out to a forum where there are people whose advice you seem to respect. As I read through the other comments, almost everyone agrees you need to see a doctor. Don't hold back, tell them what you've said here. This is nothing to be ashamed of.
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1 point by jeromec 1 day ago 0 replies      
There are already great suggestions here I think, and I also echo the medical route if you think it's appropriate. I want to add another possibility, because with a broad enough range of options you might find something quite effective.

It occurs to me you may be under challenged. It seems your academic life comes easy enough for you to simply go through the motions, allowing for listlessness to set in. To remedy that I'd find some challenge to take you out of your comfort zone like a marathon, for example, or trying to master something such as a game/sport or new skill. Done correctly, you won't really have time to stare at a screen for 30 minutes. Find something constructive that interests you. If it's something that scares you (because you may fail) even better. It may just be that you're in a rut and need to be shaken out of it. One thing is for sure: you can't regularly challenge yourself to scary things outside your comfort zone, succeed in such enterprises and remain depressed all the while. At least I sincerely doubt it.

Good luck!

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1 point by Joakal 1 day ago 0 replies      
Sounds like you're burnt out. A form of depression (well to me). I've had it many times due to heavy/obsessive work towards something, eg a school assignment from start to due date and from morning to late only to get a B mark was a bit insulting. Anyhow, for each burn out, I could not simply get over it. I know it's temporary but can't break out of it sooner than later.

However, recently as of last year, I've started doing exercise every day, a consistent sleep pattern and my diet is pretty healthy. As for social links, I joined a Volleyball club. Despite being deaf, I get game challenges, exercise and a chance to chat a bit. Helps reduce the chance of burnout, or at least I feel fit.

If you're not feeling very motivated, do something that normally motivates you for a bit. Do you like the movies? Put in a movie, like Amelie for example. You are unlikely to laugh but it's a change of pace. Maybe play Starcraft 2?

Hope you recover soon.

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2 points by mitali 1 day ago 1 reply      
I was clinically depressed in college and you sound very much like me back then. You really need to see your college's medical center psychologist - most colleges have one. ASAP. Please.

I was a top student all through high school and first year of college and became utterly depressed to the point where I failed a class because I simply could not drag myself out of my dorm room to go to the final exam. That happened to be a real kick in the pants for me... to jolt me out of my state. And get me to a doctor.

Few things that may help
- It is a phase, it will pass. But you need to be proactive and get moving. And get to a doctor - please.
- Join a bunch of clubs or sports teams (if you're athletic) or volunteer. Sometimes going to class seems unbearable but having other activities, especially ones where you have a commitment to show up for your team helps.
- Get a job - same as above. Accountability to others helps.
- Take time off and travel. If you're doing fine in college and getting decent grades etc., and can afford to skip a semester - do it! College is the last time you will have a chance to do completely new things. And traveling doesnt have to cost a lot of money... esp if you're a college student and dont mind hostels.
- And above all, PLEASE DONT DRINK or SMOKE POT. Both will make the situation MUCH worse.

I cant say I fully recovered but I am not at all the way I was in college. You will get out of it, but you need to act.

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1 point by mattm 21 hours ago 0 replies      
> I have been holed up by my self pretty much, and well I don't seem to understand what is wrong with me / what i need to do to fix this ? is this just a phase of life ?

I'm going to say something a little different than others here. There's nothing wrong with you. This is just a phase and it too will pass. Thinking that there is something wrong with you or that you need to fix something may just make things worse.

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2 points by ashiso 1 day ago 0 replies      
I'm simply amazed by the fact that so many here seem to have gone through a similar phase in their life. Of course I want to be of some help, too.

Maybe it's helpful to explain a little bit why so many people here advise you to see a professional therapist. Apart from your "symptoms", that sound familiar to everyone who went through a depressive phase, a good therapist can check you through to narrow down what kind of mindset lead to your current state and what's holding you back from getting better.
No matter how smart somebody is or how complex he's thinking, we're all cramped inside our own little world of interpretation and assumption, which is majorly based on our past experience and current environment. Sometimes it's incredibly helpful when someone slightly lifts up our glasses to show us a glimpse of the world outside this tiny scope. To put things into a broader perspective.

For example, your current lack of motivation and concentration could have various causes. No one here, and often even people who know you very good, can tell you what's behind it. A therapist also can't do this, but he or she is able to find the cause together with you through (a lot) of interviews. Maybe it's not even required to get any medication at all â€" but deciding this should be done by an expert in this field.

From what you've written it sounds to me, that you don't have a valid and healthful yardstick to measure yourself against. A lot of people don't. We tend to always look to what lies in front of us and forget about what lies behind. The internet isn't helpful here either, as it appears that no matter how much effort we put into something, there is always something we don't know, always people way better than us.
This might even be true, but it's not healthy to measure yourself against that. To be confident in your own abilities is very important. We need to take a break sometimes (better regularly) and discover all the new things we learned and achieved.
Maybe you feel like everything just played into your hands and you didn't do much work to get where you are now. That can lead you to the assumption that you're just lucky and everyone expects you to succeed in everything easily â€" but you fear that you fail every minute. This feeling can develop further into a form of anxiety where you're unable to start something because you "know" that you (might) fail and so you don't even start.
Maybe you're unable to deal with your fast maturity, leaving you unable to communicate properly with people below or above your mature-level.

But it also could be something totally different, which is why we all here encourage you to visit a professional.

I hope I helped you or someone in a similar situation. If you feel like it, just respond honestly to someone here. I wish you all the best and hope you become clear about your situation quickly.

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1 point by techiferous 1 day ago 0 replies      
"I have hardly put any effort into anything that I have been doing/done."

Do you know why? Has the work seemed meaningless, boring, overwhelming, etc.?

"I am unable to concentrate"

All the time or only during specific activities?

"I can't seem to find motivation to do work"

Do you have any motivation for non-work activities?

"and though I did have that phase, I can't stand that anymore."

Why can't you stand it anymore?

"I don't seem to understand what is wrong with me"

I know what that feels like. It's frustrating.

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1 point by stoney 1 day ago 0 replies      
Another tactic for getting yourself out of a rut is to just try something new. The more different to your current activities the better. Something physical that involves other people is a good bet, but anything that strikes you as interesting is good. As a student you probably have access to loads of clubs/societies that do all kinds of odd activities, take advantage of this.

Also, +1 to all the comments suggesting you see a doctor/counselor.

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3 points by gte910h 1 day ago 0 replies      
Go to a doctor, have one/several check you for depression.

Sounds like pretty typical depression.

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2 points by msredmond 1 day ago 0 replies      
You really should see a professional -- do it right away (why suffer further?) This may be a chemical thing you can't control. Or something else. Fixing it yourself could work, but it could not. Go to a doctor or mental health counselor first; they will be able to help or refer you to someone who can. It's really important -- it could be caused by many, many things, and a doctor/mental health professional will be able to help figure this out/eliminate other causes.

Please make an appointment with whatever you have available at your school today (all colleges should have these services).

BTW: You're extremely brave to reach out -- my hat's off to you! But don't stop here! Take the extra step to get the help you need -- you do deserve it.

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1 point by aaronbrethorst 1 day ago 0 replies      
I had a similar experience when I was in school. I ended up going on prozac for a few months, and it made all the difference in the world. As others have suggested, make an appointment with a psychiatrist and see what they can offer you. It doesn't necessarily have to be pharmaceutical in nature.
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2 points by lowprofile 1 day ago 0 replies      
I know you will get through this. I did.

I became chronically depressed when I was 15. I was hospitalized between my first and second year of college.

What got me through it? Friends and a focus on school. Having a goal was huge, I also had a job that I HAD to go to.

Also don't be afraid of medication, for short-term it can help, used to stabilized so you can get your habits going that will organically help your depression.

At the end, even though I still suffer from it. I manage it. I finished college, did grad school. I am married, have a family and have been part of two successful ventures.

You will get through it!

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6 points by triviatise 1 day ago 1 reply      
see a doctor and before you go on meds see a couple
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2 points by jwe 1 day ago 0 replies      
Sleeping is good, getting a counselor is not bad either.

I've been through rough times in the last year myself. Since a couple of months I am back on track again (or so it seems) and I've come to realize that my situation was/is far from rare.
I've met people all over the place (once I was able to talk about it) who have been through nearly exactly the same thing.

Do you feel a diffuse stress at times? Diffuse meaning that you're not able to pinpoint where the stress originates from but at the same time the stress feels familiar because you've had the exact same feeling before.

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2 points by Cherad 1 day ago 0 replies      
While IANA mental health professional by any means, reading your post you sound more bored than depressed. Getting through your college work with little effort and maturing beyond your peer groups typical socialising will contribute heavily to regular boredom. You are also at a point where lots of people are at a loss for what to do with their lives.

I certainly can't offer any concrete advice, people close to you and professionals you may have access to at college can. Take advantage of what they can do for you.

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1 point by ct 1 day ago 0 replies      
I've been feeling the same way myself the past couple of days. Not sure if it's due to the weather and all the rain recently. But I've been feeling burnt out myself. I don't have any solutions at the moment, except I think on Friday I'm going to take a personal day off (1st time this year) and stay away from the computer and go out of the city and just hang around. Maybe the change of scenery might do me some good.

As for you - sorry no advice but maybe go somewhere you haven't gone before yet preferably outdoors. Good luck!

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2 points by zwischenzug 1 day ago 0 replies      
I was in exactly the same situation as you. You sound depressed. Get medication, consider therapy. Once you feel better in yourself, search for a purpose beyond school. Try different things to feel better and find what you really want to do.

Looking back, I realised I thought I was only good to be a student. Really, what I wanted was a real purpose and real problems to solve.

Your situation may well be completely different, of course.

Nil desperandum!

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1 point by eccp 1 day ago 0 replies      
I think it's much more common than what you may think.

I've passed through a similar phase when I was at the university long ago, too much partying, alcohol and lots of junk food. Drink water and try to exercise and achieve small goals (say, add two or five more minutes of running for session each week) and involve in another type of activities to give you some relief from stress without trashing your body.

Also, talk to other people/real friends about how you feel or seek counseling.

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2 points by mapster 1 day ago 0 replies      
Flip this 180: "I have been holed up by my self pretty much"
I've realized the more social I am the happier and healthier I am. And I do not suggest virtual social methods - I mean face to face, close friends, casual acquaintances, and strangers.
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1 point by zcksjdn 1 day ago 0 replies      
Struggling with OCD and depression myself, it can be very difficult to do anything, socializing, hobbies etc. There is some really good advice on here though.

Definitely consider talking to someone. A close friend, family even. I'd really suggest trying to find a counselor, psychologist or psychiatrist though. It might take some time to find one that you feel comfortable with, don't give up. I'm still looking.

I hadn't thought of suggesting this, but I have been having a problem with this myself, and that is entagld's comment(1st right now) - "It would be great if you could eventually talk about a passion you have with someone who shares it." I'd even extend that to working on a project that you are passionate about with someone. You would be surprised how much of a difference this can make.

I really hope you can find some direction or help from the comments here. Good luck.

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1 point by Jiminez 16 hours ago 0 replies      
Assuming there's no organic cause, why not try looking at self-help books? I found the following useful:

http://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Trap-Struggling-Start-Living...

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0 points by OoTheNigerian 1 day ago 1 reply      
Sorry about how you are feeling. Was a bit depressed when I was quite alone in the UK.

I felt really better when I called home, achieved a little success or just took a break.

Are you at/near home? If not, visit home and some childhood friends.

Visit the hospital and you will see how lucky you are to be healthy,

I believe depression is just a state of mind and you are in control.

Just kow that life is generally not supposed to be serious.

I hope you feel better soon.

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1 point by satori99 1 day ago 0 replies      
The fact that you recognise your predicament, and are asking for help is a strong indicator that you will get better quickly.

I tried pretending to my friends and family that I was more or less ok. I think I must have been pretty good at it too, as no one ever suggested to me that I might have been depressed until I got to the point of having a scary psychotic episode.

I got better within months after accepting my condition and learning how to manage it.

As almost everyone else has stated, depression is totally managable if you seek professional help.

Sometimes with medication and sometimes simply with therapy and lifestyle changes.

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1 point by JoshKalkbrenner 1 day ago 0 replies      
Not sure this will help, but here are my two cents:

1. Are you a Celiac? http://www.celiac.com/

2. Advice I received from a Taxi Driver -- "If you're having a bad day, walk away." He referred to his 'bad days' as those when he didn't make money, but his advice struck a cord with me: If you cannot do anything about it, walk away and try again another day.

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1 point by dsgraham 1 day ago 0 replies      
When I was in a similar point in my life, I found it best to create something. Creation for me helped to build a motivation and a sense of pride. Be it a webpage that you have been thinking about building, a model car, a wood project, just something that you can see progress on and you can have a passion for.

See if there is a club that you can join at your college; sailing, woodworking, fencing, pottery, etc... These have also helped me to find a motivation and a sense of accomplishment, plus they tend to push you to learn and grow your skills.

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1 point by hariis 1 day ago 0 replies      
In addition to all the great advice here, I would suggest you learn Meditation and practice it everyday, it will take just 20 minutes. While I don't guarantee anything in the short run, you will see benefits in the long run with regards to issues of this nature.
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1 point by Cherian_Abraham 1 day ago 0 replies      
I could tell you the same advice others have given you here, or those you already looked up: Get a hobby like reading, Exercise everyday, go see a doctor etc. All those things work. But do you have someone to talk to, other than over an anonymous post on HN?

I dont know what use I could be of, but I can lend a ear anytime you need one. Or maybe help talk stuff over. If you feel you need that, email me cherian-dot-abraham-at-gmail-dot-com.

Instead of just advice, I thought giving you that was maybe a bit more helpful.

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1 point by hansy 1 day ago 0 replies      
If you're sure it's not medical related force yourself to go out and talk to someone. Anyone. About anything. I'm a college student too, so if you want to talk, email me at yadavh@umich.edu and we can set some time to just shoot the shit. Yeah you don't know me, but maybe you've still got a little spontaneity in you.
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-1 point by bpourriahi 1 day ago 2 replies      
I went through the same thing. The best advice I can give you now is to go chiropractor that specializes in many different types of medicines. DO NOT go to a regular MD - they will not help you any.

Depression is a symptom, and can be caused by a variety of factors. You need someone who is unbiased and well educated, and a well-rounded chiropractor is a great starting point.

Nutritional Deficiencies
Toxicity
Malfunctioning (thyroid, adrenal)

these are all major possible contributing factors that need to be checked.

You can email me at anony304@gmail.com and I'll help you try to figure out the root. Detail in your symptoms helps too (e.g. do you get dizzy when you stand up, are you lethargic, digestive irregularities, etc).

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Highly Profitable Mac/iOS Startup Hiring ($300 to $500/day)
7 points by throwawayappdev 1 day ago   1 comment top
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4 points by sunkan 7 hours ago 0 replies      
Just curious as to why you are using a throw away account? It might be more convincing to the potential applicants, if they know the company they are applying to.
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Ask HN: Need salary negotiation advice
18 points by throwaway2112 2 days ago   14 comments top 10
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11 points by vladd 2 days ago 0 replies      
Never ever disclose your previous compensation. If they insist, say you've signed a legal document for confidentiality. It's part of any recruiter training to avoid causing legal damage (they never ask you to disclose proprietary info from your previous employer since they can be fired for doing it). They'll give up instantly their requests upon hearing that.

Never take into consideration your current salary when you're the first to give the number. Search the company, the job or/and the area on http://www.glassdoor.com/ and use those averages plus 10% (more/less depending on how bad you want the job, how much risk you tolerate, how well you did on the interviews and how much experience do you have in the field).

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1 point by kaisdavis 9 hours ago 0 replies      
> Will filling this out impact the negotiations at all?

Highly. Filling out that form eliminates negotiation completely. You're giving up your informational advantage and letting them set your salary.

> I didn't really have a plan other than asking for my current salary + 20%

Quite frankly, you're worth more than that.

Here's a few questions that I advocate my friends ask themselves during their job searches.

1. How much do I need to make?

What's your budget? How much do you need to make month to month to survive? Okay, that's the base line. You can't earn less than that or else, by definition, you aren't earning enough to get by.

What are your savings goals? How much do you want to save month to month? Add that to the baseline.

How much more do you want to make? How much mad money do you want each month that you can consciously spend on whatever you want?

Add those together. That's a pretty good indicator of how much you want to make to be happy. Now, it may be that this number (x) is less than what you're already making (y). If so, congratulations, you're in a great position, but that doesn't mean you don't deserve more money.

2. What's industry compensation?

For the job title you're interviewing for, what's industry compensation like nationwide? How about locally?

Use salary search sites, informational interviews, and beers with people working in your industry to figure out about how much these types of positions pay. It may end up being more than your x + 20% estimate.

3. What's company compensation like?

Do you know anyone who works at the company? It's google, so you probably do. Can you find out what someone starting at this title makes to start? What's the work load like? What are the other perks?

4. Aside from cash, what do you want?

Google has nice swag, but is there anything you need that you can ask for outside of cash?

Maybe you want more vacation time. Maybe you want to work from home 1 week each month. Ask yourself 'What would make this job awesome to me.' Then ask for that.

5. Additional Resources

Here's two articles that can help with this decision.

The first is 'The Business' by rands: http://ka1.us/dgX6

It's a great overview of figuring out how much you're worth and getting them to agree.

The second is an article I wrote at the start of March about negotiation: http://ka1.us/fxki

My article goes into a bit more depth on identifying how much you're worth and asking for it.

I hope these help! Congratulations on the job offer!

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6 points by clueless123 2 days ago 2 replies      
In my experience you never get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.

Pick a number to which you will be 100% happy to do the work for and use it as your "must have" number, from there consider perks, bonuses, stock etc as nice extras but not part of the must have.

Start as high as you can because that sets your baseline. From there consider that it is a lot easier to get more $ by changing jobs than by merit raises..

My personal pet-peeve, for some reason companies have a problem increasing the pay of top engineers at a rate equivalent to their productivity. (Something that sales people always get)

And finally... always, always always remember: if it is not on paper, it does not count!

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2 points by Huppie 1 day ago 0 replies      
Okay, at the risk of sounding a bit sleezy, here some tips I found useful myself:

1. Never, ever, give out information about previous compensation. Always attempt to deflect that with "I don't feel comfortable talking about that yet" (and get the conversation back to what you can do for them.) If they insist (and you are not prepared to walk) give them a really high estimate ("I was thinking roughly <highest you could think of> to <that + 25%>")

2. Always let them make an offer first

3. Remember that their budget isn't a problem, if they decided they really want you, on the scale of Google your salary is merely a rounding error on the budget.

4. PRACTICE! I mean, get a friend you trust to do a role-play of the various tactics the recruiters use to low-ball you and practice the conversation _at least_ 5 times.

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1 point by dmlevi 9 hours ago 0 replies      
If you have time read the very small book "Getting to Yes". It teaches you how to negotiate. I took negotiotaing while getting my MBA and this was our text.

My advice to you is to come in high. IF you come in at current salary plus 20%, that doesnt leave much room to get more than 20% (this also depends on your salary). Create what is called a "BATNA". Basically your best alternative. Always keep that in mind. So you come in high and start to slowly work your way down heading towards the point when you walk away from the offer. My guess is that point is below your current salary. Aim high and keep your numbers consistent when you decrease. Goodluck.

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2 points by goombastic 2 days ago 0 replies      
This is normal. However, if you are dealing with nutty HR, they will use the numbers you give them to come up with an offer that in the end wont be much better than the one you currently have. Watch out for "performance based" bonus schemes, variable pay numbers, and deductions.

Make sure you negotiate on "in hand pay." Insist on better "in hand pay," that ways they end up negotiating on your terms.

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4 points by phlux 2 days ago 1 reply      
Get a counter from Facebook.
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2 points by falpal85 2 days ago 0 replies      
This sounds about right. I've worked at Google for the last 6 years and referred several of my colleagues, the vast majority of which were hired and their experience was horrible. When Google wants to act fast they can, the main issue is transparency between HR and organizational changes with corresponding job requisitions (most of which are outdated). I believe this is changing, but it also seems every week our hiring process changes as well which makes things much more complicated. Your best bet is knowing someone who works there and having them refer you to the right people directly. I do this all the time for people who I don't even know that reach out to me on Linkedin. Just food for thought.
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2 points by petervandijck 1 day ago 0 replies      
Just ask your friend how much you should be making at Google, he works there after all. Then try to get that.
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2 points by triviatise 2 days ago 0 replies      
You might want to look at various sites that publish salary ranges for companies. I have no idea how accurate they are, but this site (http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Google,_Inc./Sa... ) says that a sr. soft eng at google is 109-150
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Ask HN: Help writting a Google Summer of Code application
3 points by gsoc2011 15 hours ago   4 comments top 2
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1 point by JoshCole 14 hours ago 1 reply      
As a fellow Hacker News user I am stunned by just how much overlap their was in our short list of places we are interested in applying. I deeply considered Python, Django, Sunlight labs, and Sencha labs.

I ended up applying for Sencha Labs. I might send in a back-up application to Sunlight Labs. My first choice organization was LispNYC, but they didn't get accepted.

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Let's remove all this karma/reputation/friend_count *beep*
9 points by gaspard 20 hours ago   6 comments top 6
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2 points by snikolov 13 hours ago 0 replies      
Having lots of points in these games means that the person has spent a lot of time submitting content, answering questions and commenting. I consider that this time would have been better used to write open source code, to directly teach neighbors, teenagers, friends or if the person is a real expert, to create a website with all the good advices, tips, tricks or simply contribute to a wikibook.

Really? Should people also spend all their time contributing to open source instead of exercising? Cooking? Painting? Why judge someone's technical merit on the fact that they find it enjoyable and stimulating to spend some of their free time actively participating in online communities?

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4 points by Khao 20 hours ago 0 replies      
It's still useful for gaining privileges on websites such as deleting, downvoting and editing others' post. But I have to agree with you, it doesn't make a person any better, just more active on the website.
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3 points by seanmccann 18 hours ago 0 replies      
By answering questions on stackoverflow, the person is essentially teaching neighbors, teenagers, and "friends" by creating an open "wikibook".

Teaching is one of the best ways to learn something. If you can successfully teach a concept, then it shows deep understanding.

As long as HN or stackoverflow doesn't take up too much productivity, having a high reputation/karma could be a good thing. It shows passion.

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2 points by humj 14 hours ago 0 replies      
Karma is just a metric and should be treated as such. If someone is judging someone else by their karma score, that says more about the judger than the judgee.
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2 points by rch 20 hours ago 0 replies      
At least make it non-public.
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1 point by hansy 16 hours ago 0 replies      
It's not a bad way to gauge your own knowledge and expertise. If others generally find your advice/tip/suggestion useful, you will know when they up vote you.

I agree karma isn't the end-all-be-all solution, but it may serve as a reality check for those who think they are hot stuff. It can be both a humbling tool as well as a confidence booster.

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Open-Source Software Course at uWaterloo
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